So, this came up in my Facebook feed today.

"A woman allegedly gave her ex-lover a cooler that held the deceased remains of
her miscarried fetus, saying, "here's your kid."".

I am not sure what I find scarier..

That she was only charged with harrasment (I would think this might be crossing
the line into stalking. Though since the child aborted naturaly I guess there
was no implied threat.

or

That the majority of the comments actually side with her, mostly because he did
not believe she was pregnant.

However, with her obvious tenuous hold on mental health, I don't think I would believe her on face value either.

What do you think? Do you think the charges should have been more severe?

Do you think she lost the plot?

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Re: I think we have lost the
By: Rug Rat to All on Wed Oct 15 2025 10:34 am

What do you think? Do you think the charges should have been more severe?

Do you think she lost the plot?

It is hard to say, because information in social media is completely distorted more often than not.

In Spain she would get charged for misshandling biological human tissue of "meaningful entity". Long story short, if an Hospital amputates a hand because of medical reasons, you cannot go out on the streets with it showing it off to everybody.


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Internal FIDO Tags
FIDO: DEBATEF DEBATE
DOVE: DOVE-DEB DOVE-DEBATE

So they should be separate here.

This one I'm replying to is via Dovenet, with no PATH. You can see your QWK tagline at the bottom.

You are replying to my post to you here because I only posted it here as I
have not been seeing your posts in Fido DEBATE, *only* here, so I wouldn't likely respond to them on *FIDO*. ;)

As you see above, I am not using the same files, tags, or the default
config. When I check my Fido DEBATE and Dove DEBATE areas, as a user, I am *not* seeing the same messsages, either.

Unless a copy of sbbsecho that was compiled in July waited three months and then started treating "DEBATE" as equal to "DOVE-DEBATE," I don't see any issues on this end.


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Not sure what's going on here, but it seems these posts (RugRat
seems to be doing it also) are either being posted in Dovenet
and sent to Fidonet as well (or being posted in Fidonet and sent
to Dovenet, not sure). Are you possibly using the same echotag?
"DEBATE" is a Fidonet echotag, I use "DOVE-DEB" for Dovenet's
Debate echo, but one could use any prefix for Dovenet to separate
th two.

i can't believe people do this stuff. it's not like ftn is hard. someone who knows nothing about it can set it up correctly.

My internal codes and area tags are different here. Someone likely added
FIDO to their synchronet board and used DEBATE as their internal code for
FIDO DEBATE which, in the synchronet install, is/used to be the default internal code for this DOVE echo.

I actually can believe that someone might have made that error.

I don't use the default internal code for *either* echo here. Dove is DOVE-DEB, and FIDO is DEBATEF, and I can tell they are different just by checking what messages are in each one. DOVE DEBATE is active, where the FIDO echo very much is *not*.


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Internal FIDO Tags
FIDO: DEBATEF DEBATE
DOVE: DOVE-DEB DOVE-DEBATE

So they should be separate here.

This one I'm replying to is via Dovenet, with no PATH. You can see your QWK tagline at the bottom.

I also just confirmed, by turning off binkd, uploading my messages, confirming that the FIDOOUT event ran, and then checking /sbbs/fido/out, that no messages posted by me in this echo got bagged into FIDO DEBATE here.

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Re: I think we have lost the
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Oct 19 2025 11:32 am

My internal codes and area tags are different here. Someone likely
added FIDO to their synchronet board and used DEBATE as their
internal code for FIDO DEBATE which, in the synchronet install,
is/used to be the default internal code for this DOVE echo.

no shit.

I actually can believe that someone might have made that error.

yeah, i believe it too. people are idiots.

I don't use the default internal code for *either* echo here. Dove
is DOVE-DEB, and FIDO is DEBATEF, and I can tell they are different
just by checking what messages are in each one. DOVE DEBATE is
active, where the FIDO echo very much is *not*.

put your data files in separate directories. it's not hard.
it's better if you have a fuck ton of msg areas too.
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Re: Re: I think we have lost the
By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Sun Oct 19 2025 11:39 am

Internal FIDO Tags FIDO: DEBATEF DEBATE DOVE: DOVE-DEB DOVE-DEBATE

So they should be separate here.

This one I'm replying to is via Dovenet, with no PATH. You can see
your QWK tagline at the bottom.

I also just confirmed, by turning off binkd, uploading my messages, confirming that the FIDOOUT event ran, and then checking
/sbbs/fido/out, that no messages posted by me in this echo got bagged
into FIDO DEBATE here.

i emailed the guy. i tried to contact him via his bbs but it crashed.
okay i got onto his bbs but when i was writing a msg it was just a single
line and kept overwriting. fun.

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Re: Re: I think we have lost the
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 19 2025 06:06 pm

i emailed the guy. i tried to contact him via his bbs but it
crashed. okay i got onto his bbs but when i was writing a msg it was
just a single line and kept overwriting. fun.

okay did a test post at C-Net Amiga BBS - bbs.catracing.org 6840
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Hey Dumas!

On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 11:39:28 -0500, you wrote:

I also just confirmed, by turning off binkd, uploading my messages, confirming that the FIDOOUT event ran, and then checking /sbbs/fido/out, that no messages posted by me in this echo got bagged into FIDO DEBATE
here.

I believe you, It was only the two of you posting in both echos, so I had assumed too soon. Whoever cross posted it to Dovenet has the bbsid "TRANSPO" (I missed the BBSid the first time around). I have no idea who that may be, though.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: I think we have lost the
By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Sun Oct 19 2025 06:24 pm

so I had assumed too soon. Whoever cross posted it to Dovenet
has the bbsid "TRANSPO" (I missed the BBSid the first time around).
I have no idea who that may be, though.

yeah i saw that and i thought the guy was running a synchronet bbs and
linking them all up.

transpo is
148.170.167.4

central ontatario remote aka mick's place
centralontarioremote.net

it's a mystic bbs. i told the sysop.
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put your data files in separate directories. it's not hard.
it's better if you have a fuck ton of msg areas too.

I started doing that for networks I added later. You are right, it is not difficult.


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I also just confirmed, by turning off binkd, uploading my messages, confirming that the FIDOOUT event ran, and then checking /sbbs/fido/out, that no messages posted by me in this echo got bagged into FIDO DEBATE here.

I believe you, It was only the two of you posting in both echos, so I had >assumed too soon. Whoever cross posted it to Dovenet has the bbsid "TRANSPO" (I
missed the BBSid the first time around). I have no idea who that may be, >though.

That is weird that it was just us, and would sure make you think it was one
of the two of us that caused it! ;) Maybe it was just us who were posting on the FIDO side that caused that to be so, i.e. maybe the duplication was only one-way.

As there have been no messages in Fido DEBATE since May, 2024, it could
have been one-way crosslinked for a while then and no one would notice.


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Hey Dumas!

On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:11:20 -0500, you wrote:

had assumed too soon. Whoever cross posted it to Dovenet has the bbsid
"TRANSPO" (I missed the BBSid the first time around). I have no idea
who that may be, though.

That is weird that it was just us, and would sure make you think it was
one of the two of us that caused it! ;) Maybe it was just us who were posting on the FIDO side that caused that to be so, i.e. maybe the duplication was only one-way.

Most definitely! And yeah, I believe it was only the two of you in a brief discussion on the Fido side and it ended up on Dovenet. I, too, think it may have only been one way, unless somehow Synchronet is catching it and not allowing it to go back to Fido.

I would believe the latter if it were the case, since Synchronet is usually far ahead of most things Fidonet related.

As there have been no messages in Fido DEBATE since May, 2024, it could
have been one-way crosslinked for a while then and no one would notice.

No idea. I just think I'm going crazy when I read things twice. I try to purposely skip reading the legit Dovenet gated echos to Fidonet, so I only read them once. Otherwise I'm replying to the same conversation via both, depending where I read it first. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: I think we have lost the
By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Mon Oct 20 2025 10:11 am

That is weird that it was just us, and would sure make you think
it was one of the two of us that caused it! ;) Maybe it was just
us who were posting on the FIDO side that caused that to be so, i.e.
maybe the duplication was only one-way.

mabye somehow it got past the crc checks.
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Rug Rat wrote to All <=-

So, this came up in my Facebook feed today.

"A woman allegedly gave her ex-lover a cooler that held the deceased remains of
her miscarried fetus, saying, "here's your kid."".

Sad and sick. But no opinion on the charges. Perhaps it was
a mental thing on her part...



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MRO wrote to Mike Powell <=-

Re: I think we have lost the
By: Mike Powell to RUG RAT on Thu Oct 16 2025 09:05 am

What do you think? Do you think the charges should have
been more severe?

Not necessarily, but...

i didnt look at the article but that could be about 3 different charges
in regards to mishandlilng/disrespecting/abusing a corpse.

Does a dead PRE born constitute a corpse in this modern day?



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