sbbs/ctrl/services.ini looks like that for NNTP(S) now
; Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP)
[NNTP]
Port=119
Command=nntpservice.js -f -na
[NNTPS]
Enabled=true
Port=563
Options=TLS
Command=nntpservice.js -f -na
so i have added -na to allow users who authenticate with an BBS account only.
anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post?
Or is that just something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?
sbbs/ctrl/services.ini looks like that for NNTP(S) now
; Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) [NNTP]
Port=119
Command=nntpservice.js -f -na
[NNTPS]
Enabled=true
Port=563
Options=TLS
Command=nntpservice.js -f -na
so i have added -na to allow users who authenticate with an BBS account
only.
anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post? Or is that just
something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?
The above looks correct to me, and you can definitely offer it as a feature to your users (with authentication, like you did, of course). That's what it's there for!
Mindsurfer wrote to Accession <=-
Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?
anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post? Or is that
just something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?
Well it works, but i think it is prone to making errors/problems.
At least in comparison to posting from the BBS, don't you think?
I keep it there for now, but i have removed port 119 from
portforwarding into my lan, as i want to offer the NNTPS port only.
Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?
anything else? Who uses NNTPS regularly to read and post? Or is that just
something you should not use or offer as a feature to users?
why would it be there for many many years if it wasnt there to use.
Well it works, but i think it is prone to making errors/problems. At leastwhy?
in comparison to posting from the BBS, don't you think?
I keep it there for now, but i have removed port 119 from portforwardingwhy? you run telnet right?
into my lan, as i want to offer the NNTPS port only.
that's not secure.
Well it works, but i think it is prone to making errors/problems. At
least in comparison to posting from the BBS, don't you think?
I keep it there for now, but i have removed port 119 from
portforwarding into my lan, as i want to offer the NNTPS port only. I don't see a problem in offering the enrypted transport only.
Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?
well, there is not very much documentation in the wiki or the old docs about NNTP. If i give my users access to NNTP i don't want them to be able to easily make a mess. (By default you dont have to authenticate at all to access NNTP for example). And if i as the sysop do not know much about the NNTP+synchronet details, how can i expect them users to handle it correctly.
i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet.
The "From" field includes an email in one post and the "To" field
contains the "newsgroup area tag" etc. It is Usenet that has to fit
into FTNs.
well, there is not very much documentation in the wiki or the old
docs about NNTP. If i give my users access to NNTP i don't want them
to be able to easily make a mess. (By default you dont have to
authenticate at all to access NNTP for example). And if i as the
sysop do not know much about the NNTP+synchronet details, how can i
expect them users to handle it correctly.
PS: i will continue to ask questions, even if the question might
sound stupid to you or the other synchronet veterans. Please keep
in mind that there are still sysops who have to learn and experience everything that synchronet has to offer.
i tend to use telnet for bbs signup only, switch to ssh after that
and change the password while on the secure connection. when you
have secure alternatives, why not use em?
i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet. The
"From" field includes an email in one post
Well it works, but i think it is prone to making errors/problems. At
least in comparison to posting from the BBS, don't you think?
Not really. The only errors/problems you'll probably run into are old outdated newsreaders that don't do certain things how Synchronet would expect it to.
Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?I see you've already found Pan. I've tried out just about as many as I could find that still worked and/or compiled.
Otherwise, as it seems you're using Linux, I'd say the better of the GUI newsreaders would be Thunderbird, Claws Mail, and Pan (although Thunderbird has it's quirks at times, too). There's also some nice console newsreaders as well, but require a bit more configuration, like slrn, tin, neomutt, and alpine. slrn is my favorite out of these choices, and what I still use when reading/posting via NNTP(s). I also really liked neomutt, because while it has newsreader functionality, it's also a console email client (based off the original mutt). However, when I contacted the main dev and asked about NNTP issues, he told me unless I was willing to fix it myself and send patches, or find someone else to continue the NNTP support.. he wasn't interested in overhauling that outdated code. I ended up going back to slrn after that.
well, there is not very much documentation in the wiki or the old docs
about NNTP. If i give my users access to NNTP i don't want them to be able
to easily make a mess. (By default you dont have to authenticate at all to
access NNTP for example). And if i as the sysop do not know much about the
NNTP+synchronet details, how can i expect them users to handle it
correctly.
By defualt, an anonymous/guest login can't post messages. So they won't be able to "make a mess" either.
maybe i don't understand yet how the bbs behind the nntp(s) service is handling what it gets from the newsreader. I will continue testing the nntp(s) feature and see if i can send out something messy ;)well, there is not very much documentation in the wiki or the old docs
about NNTP. If i give my users access to NNTP i don't want them to be able
to easily make a mess. (By default you dont have to authenticate at all to
access NNTP for example). And if i as the sysop do not know much about the
NNTP+synchronet details, how can i expect them users to handle it
correctly.
There's not much to it. not sure what you mean by easily make a mess.
You just connect to the port with a client. you also have to do that with http, telnet and whatever other services you use.
i'm not sure what you mean by authentication. just don't use a guest account and have your bbs setup in a secure manner.i think in Pan you can define a login/password in the usenet server setting right away (as it should be), but i think in Thunderbird (and that's what i started with) you have to require your nntp(s) service a non anonymous login (parameter -na) to get a user/password popup in Thunderbird. By dedault i think the nntp(s) service starts with no parameters or with -f parameter only and Thunderbird just does not provide a user/password field for the Newsgroup account. So it is a bit dificult to login as a non anonymous user using Thunderbird if you don't require your nntp(s) service a non anonymous login via -na parameter.
It is just a habbit to me to use encrypted connections where possible.i tend to use telnet for bbs signup only, switch to ssh after that and
change the password while on the secure connection. when you have secure
alternatives, why not use em?
well because you are creating another roadblock to users and they dont like the hassle. and it's just a bbs. i think the sysop should worry about security on their end but who cares as a user if their shit is going through without encryption? they're just going to play games or download files or post msgs.
At least it looked like it on my side. Maybe it had been changed after sending the Message. I have to check that again.i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet. The
"From" field includes an email in one post
your from field contains an entire email?
i'm giving you a link to newslink.txt. not sure if there's a newer version. you should read it fully
https://pastebin.com/raw/fsD0inMS
your from field contains an entire email?At least it looked like it on my side. Maybe it had been changed
after sending the Message. I have to check that again.
i'm giving you a link to newslink.txt. not sure if there's a newer version. you should read it fully https://pastebin.com/raw/fsD0inMS
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