• Re: Fender guitar lawsuits in Europe

    From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Gamgee on Friday, June 12, 2026 07:54:08
    Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.

    Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods.
    What a concept.

    Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Friday, June 12, 2026 07:54:08
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    I _think_ you mean patents, though I think these may be getting into
    some more nebulous concepts where it's not especially either.

    I think you're right - I suppose I was thinking of implied consent - if
    you don't actively pursue remedies, that could hamper your ability to
    sue companies for patent infringement?

    I am most obviously not a lawyer.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 12, 2026 10:27:13
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.

    Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods.
    What a concept.

    Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.

    Do you believe that city/local/state/federal agencies often make true statements as to the reasons they do anything, especially when it
    involves money/funding?



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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to Gamgee on Friday, June 12, 2026 10:12:06
    On Friday, June 12th Gamgee was heard saying...
    No. I mean like Americans supporting America, by buying "local".

    Cool, tell me about some of these American only products you use!

    Food: Welp, we need to grow it around the world if you want the food you probably eat on a daily basis.
    Electronics: Oops, we don't have the facilities nor the will of the people to work for such cheap labor. Unless you're down with a $10k phone.
    ...the list goes on forever...
    Vehicles: Oops, they need parts & resources from all over.

    I buy from local & farmers markets all the time. I'm not dumb enough to think we can move to a "American only" economy. We could go back to one. Better get ready to live like it's the depression though.


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Adept on Friday, June 12, 2026 09:20:55
    Re: Re: Fender guitar lawsuits in Europe
    By: Adept to Nightfox on Fri Jun 12 2026 08:42 am

    do; I'm mostly interested in it because of the intersection with patent/copyright/etc.

    I've heard Fender's guitar headstock shape is patented (or copyrighted?) in the US, whereas their guitar body shapes are not. That's why you (generally) don't see any other guitar makers making guitars with the exact same headstock shape in the US, but plenty with Strat & Tele bodies.

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  • From Mike Powell@21:1/175.6 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 12, 2026 12:15:30
    Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went
    with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of
    their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.

    Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American
    goods. What a concept.

    Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.



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  • From Mike Powell@21:1/175.6 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, June 12, 2026 12:18:18
    Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went
    with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of
    their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.

    Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American
    goods. What a concept.

    Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.

    Could those financial reasons, in addition to resale, also include
    maintenance costs? I don't know when that happened but I have a
    brother-in-law who steers relatives away from BMW vehicles because he
    says they are more difficult and costly to maintain. He and my
    sister drive Acuras and Mercedes, so it isn't a "hating foreign
    makes" thing.


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gamgee on Friday, June 12, 2026 16:15:31
    Re: Re: Fender guitar lawsuits in Europe
    By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 11 2026 08:43 pm

    Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley
    when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was
    higher. I don't understand it myself.

    Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods. What a concept.

    I feel like it can be difficult to know what's actually built in the US anymore. Even if the company is an American company, the product is sometimes assembled in other countries (cars are a prime example, where cars from an American brand might be assembled in Mexico or the US, for instance). And even when they're assembled in the US, some of the parts are often made overseas.

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